Would you pay 47k for this?

"LJ909" (lj909) 07/06/2016 at 17:00 • Filed to: None

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Because I wouldn't. Brand new 16 Colorado Z71 Diesel. Too much for me.

Flyboy is FAA certified insane > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:05

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Christ on a bike are they all that much?

That’s 2500 territory

shop-teacher > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:06

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No. No I wouldn't.

not for canada - australian in disguise > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:09

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Woops, was looking at the American GMC website. Carry on. BUT. My point still stands, that thing is 60 grand in Canadabucks.

Which can get you a Sierra 3500, and 17 GRAND to spare. So basically a Sierra 3500 and a Cruze.

Decay buys too many beaters > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:10

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God, I can’t imagine paying that much for any car. It’s like a decimal point (or two) off from the price range I usually play in.

LOREM IPSUM > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:13

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Idk. Not me though.

Drove past a ford dealer not long ago with a brand new f350 bro truck on the lot.

Sticker on the windshield was over 90 thousand dollars. Canadian dollars, but still, who in their right mind would even entertain such a thing at that price?

Not me. That’s for sure.

citizennick > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:17

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Personally no, but people are having no issues spending that much on a Ford Focus.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:19

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I wouldn’t, personally. But I’m not the target audience.

Saracen > Flyboy is FAA certified insane 07/06/2016 at 17:26

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Yeah, a base Z71 Duramax Long Bed 4x4 is $40k.

Saracen > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:27

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I’d prefer a Ram 4x4 Ecodiesel, with the 8AT and air suspension.

$47k for a compact truck - even a loaded one. Crazy days we live in.

gawdzillla > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:28

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i’ll buy one if they have a 20000 off sale ....

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:30

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The older I get, the less interested in trucks I become (with some exceptions). The younger me could maybe justify the price and possibly like the thing, but the 32 year old me thinks I’d willingly pay $4.7K to be able to destroy it.

LongbowMkII > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 17:31

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I don't think I'd pay 47k for any truck short of a full ton dually with a dick sucking attachment.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > LOREM IPSUM 07/06/2016 at 17:33

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Some 20something dude who just made big money in the oil patch in Fort McMurray. Go up to Fort Mac, you will see lots of them.

DynamicWeight > LOREM IPSUM 07/06/2016 at 18:21

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I knew a young married couple, making about 120k combined a year, who bought a 70k truck and a brand new M3 straight way. IIRC the truck was 1000/month and the car was 800/month. And I quote “Yeah, we leased it, I mean, whats the one where you lease it but you buy it? I don’t remember, it was one of the two”

Flyboy is FAA certified insane > Saracen 07/06/2016 at 18:24

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Wow that’s a big fat nope

Noah - Now with more boost. > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 19:04

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Yep isn’t that nuts!? Absolutely not, even if I was interested in driving it. Higher trim level trucks are SO expensive these days... it’s ridiculous. Especially given how often most people who buy trucks to DD actually need one. Why not buy a nice midsize luxury car? And that’s if you insist on going brand new...

LOREM IPSUM > DynamicWeight 07/06/2016 at 19:12

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That’s actually kind of impressive, and not in the good kind of way. Lol.

LJ909 > Flyboy is FAA certified insane 07/06/2016 at 19:50

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Yea. The lowest I’ve ever seen is like 38.

LJ909 > not for canada - australian in disguise 07/06/2016 at 19:51

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Or a luxury car or a used AMG, M or RS.

LJ909 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 07/06/2016 at 19:55

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Sad thing is I'm not even sure the target audience for this thing even exists. Everyone that wanted one either gave up after the shit storm that was the delays when the diesel came to market, got a Tacoma or don't know about this at all.

LJ909 > Saracen 07/06/2016 at 19:56

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I know right? I would rather get a Silverado/Sierra or a used Ram PowerWagon.

LJ909 > gawdzillla 07/06/2016 at 19:57

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Please. They aren't budging from this price.

LJ909 > Noah - Now with more boost. 07/06/2016 at 20:01

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It’s an image thing. Great trucks with tons of American ingenuity and engineering that’s gone into them being used for grocery runs, kids practices and daily wife errands. Though I do see quite a few dually Big 3 trucks actually being used as trucks for work, there’s no reason for a small woman or anyone for that matter to be daily driving a 60-70 thousand dollar, saddle leather leaden big ass truck when a luxury sedan can do it better and more efficiently.

gawdzillla > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 21:21

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I will stick with my Silverado in this case lol

Hi there > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 22:13

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My sister in law’s mom is a lesbian, gets a new dually ford diesel every 5 years or so since 1990, but for transporting horses. they rack up 160-220k miles per truck, 95% of the time heavily laden. 4cyl awd subarus for commuting.

SurelyYewJest > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 22:15

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$43k is where I’d personally call it quits on a mid-sizer. But these are probably getting some markups still because of the diesel, which came out 5 months ago. I’ve seen several around town, so they are selling. They must be selling fairly well if the dealer isn’t budging on the price.

Noah - Now with more boost. > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 23:16

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and not just efficiently, maybe even quickly too

shop-teacher > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 23:40

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They’re actually selling every Colorado/Canyon they can screw together. GM is going to be contracting cutaway van production to Navistar starting next year, so they can free up more plant space for the Coloranyans. That said, there’s no damn way I’d pay that much for these trucks.

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > LJ909 07/06/2016 at 23:55

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And here I am, enjoying my truck that stickered at half of that. And averaging over 24mpg over 17k miles so far. Love the idea of the diesel, but... that sticker shock!

shop-teacher > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 00:01

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Wow! For $5.5k more you can get a Sierra 3500 crew cab, 4x4, duramax, with a few options. It ain’t loaded, but you wouldn’t exactly be roughing it either.

SurelyYewJest > shop-teacher 07/07/2016 at 00:48

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Ya, by the end of June GM has posted 74,000 of these trucks in North American sales. That means that at current pace, they’ll outdo 2015 by at least 25,000 units.

PeavineThunder > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 01:43

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This is exactly why the Coloranyon are bound to fail. You can get a comparable 1/2 ton (minus the sparkplug-less engine) for about the same amount of money, so unless space is tight, or you really want the extra few MPGs, you can get a lot more truck for the money if you upsize to the half ton.

I did a quick comparison (long bed, crew cab on both) and a Colorado Z71 with the midnight appearance package ($5k) and the Diesel ($4k) was at $44525, and a Silverado LT Z71 was at $43265. I do know that the midnight is an appearance package, but with that removed, the truck is a tad over $40k. That’s with the diesel to bring the trailering weight up.

If the crew cab on the Colorado is anything like most mid-sizes, if you need to regularly carry adults in the back seat, spending the extra money on the 1/2 ton is a no brainer.

This was discussed elsewhere on Jalopnik, the conclusion was that unless you NEEDED a smaller truck, it made much more sense to just go up to the Sierrverado 1500. And if you don’t need either, then go with the Ridgeline.

PeavineThunder > Noah - Now with more boost. 07/07/2016 at 01:49

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It’s even worse for midsize trucks. Drop an extra $7k and for $54k you can have a base-model Silverado High Country, which I’m guessing has everything that this Colorado has, plus more, then there’s the extra space and towing capability (but you lose the offroad stuff and the useable 17-18" wheels).

That said, at $55k-ish, which seems to be about average for a Crew/6'5 top trim truck (F-150 Plat / Ram Laramie Longhorn / Denali / High Country), you basically get the same level of comfort and amenities you’d find in a comparably priced German car, AND you can tow, and fit more people.

Reverend Clint > Noah - Now with more boost. 07/07/2016 at 04:01

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I see these guys with huge trucks and every add on know to man... no doubt the most they need to haul is their grow-ho girlfriend, I live in marijuana country.

Racingindrag > Hi there 07/07/2016 at 06:00

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Lol. My uncle’s neighbor is an axe murderer, gets a new Miata every 2 years or so since 2001, but mainly for transporting goldfish...

CitroenBX > LOREM IPSUM 07/07/2016 at 06:26

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Thats scary. And there you have the type of folk who will drop nearly 50 grand on a blacked out truck.

aglawyer > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 06:34

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That kind of money gets you into well-equipped full-size trucks. And at that price point, you’re less worried about gas mileage, but get, even absent the diesel, a more powerful V8 or EcoBoost (Ford), more payload capacity/room, and more interior room.

I looked at the GM Mid-sized trucks and the Tacoma, but decided I’m going to go with a full-sized because it’s about the same money, and I get more space.

Dana > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 07:28

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No. Not a chance I am paying that much for so little.

MarionCobretti > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 07:42

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I guess I would. My first reaction was “Who in the world would pay that much for a Colorado !? I could get a brand new full-sized 4-door 4x4 pickup for that kind of money!” But apparently I was wrong. Trucks have gotten pricier than I thought!

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/…

Whatevs > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 07:59

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You could take off any digit you prefer, I still wouldn’t pay the new price.

GirchyGirchy > Hi there 07/07/2016 at 08:29

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I’d buy one of those high end diesels if I used them that much, too. Things have damn nice interiors...leather all over, real wood, shiny bits and stuff.

McTurtle > Reverend Clint 07/07/2016 at 09:03

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I see these guys in their Corvettes or S-class Mercs and no doubt the amount of times they race on a track or carry 5 people is probably zero. Your logic is flawed from the get go - needs vs wants... Think about it.
I dd a Honda Accord. 99% of the time it’s only me in it and I hardly ever use the trunk. Should I trade down to a SMART or maybe a bicycle since I don’t NEED an Accord? My TV is a 60inch tv but my eyes are in great shape. Should I trade down to a little 20inch tv? Where I live has spare bedrooms that I never use. Should I trade down to a caravan since that’s all I strictly need?

McTurtle > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 09:05

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Needs vs wants. She didn’t NEED it, she wanted it. Do you buy everything strictly according to what you need? Seriously?

PWRandSPD > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 09:38

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It seems like a lot of money, but in reality it is just inflation. On average the inflation rate over 100 years is around 3.23%. Now that also compounds over time which is why as time goes on it just accelerates. The vehicle industry, not just the truck segment follow the inflation rate in price increases. I bought a diesel 3500 Ram in 1998. The sticker was around $42,000. In today’s $’s that would be around $62,000-63,000. Guess what, for the same trim level truck which happens to have way more to it, it falls right in line with that figure. Technically you are now getting more bang for you buck. It’s not that truck prices have gone up or out of control, it is that the value of the dollar changes over time. It also seems a bit more difficult to swallow as our cost of living and incomes probably don’t increase at the same rate. Median household income in 1998, about $38,000. Today’s median house hold income, about $53,000, about $3,000 short of the around $56,000 if it kept pace with inflation.

Danny U > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 10:02

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Used Z71's with low miles are going wholesale in the $32-33k range but non-diesels

Raymundo > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 10:20

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You’d be surprised how much you can make any vehicle cost.

Go ahead and go play with the configurator on Chevy’s website. I was able to create a $47,555 Colorado. Would I actually want that? No. In fact, the Canyon (same thing, I think) I specced out for my wants came in at $36k.

I didn’t choose anything like the $5000 black bow tie as seen in the OP.

MJ > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 10:28

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My father-in-law drives a 2015 RAM Laramie, completely loaded. He traded in his 2014 Laramie completely loaded.

RancidLunchmeat > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 11:24

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What makes you think that? How many fully optioned trucks do you think Chevy, GM and Ford sell for MSRP?

Munalum > LOREM IPSUM 07/07/2016 at 11:36

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My uncle is looking at a Denali 2500 diesel its $91,000. Insanity for an avg Joe. But he has a few businesses to write it off against and he uses his trucks towing and plowing. All the avg salary joes lease trucks to have the newest and best and nothing will ever be theirs.

69montego > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 13:00

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Nope, and it wouldn't matter what brand it was. Trucks today are insane with their pricing. but someone has to be buying them

xx45xx > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 13:18

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run a dodge 4500 into a bmw and tell me which one is ‘better’

Snikpoh1390 > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 13:44

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Looks like the same dealership your Gram got her CTS-V wagon at..

oh..wait..

anacanapana > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 14:30

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I’ve been trying to figure out when pickup trucks became luxury vehicles for a few years now.

I see TV ads promoting a $40k truck as if they’re leaving it with the keys in the ignition and you can just take it.

anacanapana > McTurtle 07/07/2016 at 14:34

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Those of us who aren’t children are pretty good at not blowing a ridiculous amount of money (vehicle, insurance, gas, etc) just because we want something .

anacanapana > Noah - Now with more boost. 07/07/2016 at 14:41

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You can park a car, go into a store, and come back out with your purchases while the person who pulled into the parking lot behind you is still trying to park their big-assed truck properly (usually by attempting to back into a space and really sucking at it).

Who am I kidding? Some of them don’t bother trying.

This is my first dually and I always thought it was ok for a dually to take 2 parking spaces, just wondering how many dually owners take 2 spots?? If you do have you ever had any problems? (ie. vehicle towed, angry people)

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i dont even have a dually and i take up two spaces...i dont think your crazy for doing it people just dont watch what there doing when they open there doors any more, ive never had any trouble?

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If your parking that far away you wont have any problems.When i go to any store I take up 4 spots.I have beendoing it for 5 years now with no problem.

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I personally don’t think there is a problem witha person doing it. But, they should be doing it out back a bit more as to not take the spots right near the entrance of the place you are going in. You are just asking for people to get mad and key your truck.

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I don’t have a daully and I took two spots at my girlfriends apartment parking lot about two months ago...when I came out the next morning, my truck was gone! It got towed for being “double parked” Cost me $125 clams to get it back, and they dragged it up onto the flatbed IN PARK w/ 4-wheel drive engaged...

Lawsuit pending against the towing company...

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two is a must, almost fits in three, and plenty of buffer in four

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/479243-parking-your-dually-aka-wide-butt.html

HughMagnusJohnson > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 14:59

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no way

Burnie McHothot > McTurtle 07/07/2016 at 15:09

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Since when do rational people shell out nearly $50K for a ‘want’ that they’ll never really use? ‘cause those AT tires’ll and 4HI’ll come super handy on those gnarly gravel parking lots.

TrucksDoinTruckStuff > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 15:13

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Nope, I’d wait for the ‘17 ZR2 model to be released...

Burnie McHothot > xx45xx 07/07/2016 at 15:17

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Yeah, nothing more rational than a fear-based purchase, you know, just to make sure you completely decapitate the other driver, instead of letting them potentially survive a head-on and all for princely sum $50K. You show those car-driving assholes.

McTurtle > Burnie McHothot 07/07/2016 at 15:22

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Trying to determine or rationalize the validity of a ‘want’ based on the value of the item is like saying theft is only theft if the value of the stolen item is > X. The reality is, if someone buys something out of want then that’s just fine and it doesn’t matter what the value of that item is whether it’s $50k or $5k.

UAVnoitall > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 15:27

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Sometimes I drive my Suburban into L.A. (at 14 MPG) solely because it takes the crappy L.A. county roads better than my cars with 35 series tires do. Unfortunately, driving around SoCal could nearly be classified as a contact sport where the biggest, tallest and heaviest survive fair better than light, economical and nimble often times. Other than that, the "burb" sits 6 days a week in the driveway until I need to tow something or go into urban automotive combat again.

xx45xx > Burnie McHothot 07/07/2016 at 15:29

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because people’s first thought is of the other driver when in a serious accident? lol your reasoning is well and good too bad people are assholes. im not saying your not right, people buy massive trucks they dont need, im just saying im not the person making it happen. just pointing out those pesky facts. try not to let your emotions cloud your thinking.

LJ909 > RancidLunchmeat 07/07/2016 at 16:29

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I actually called the dealer and spoke to a sales guy about this truck.

McTurtle > anacanapana 07/07/2016 at 16:39

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What’s a ridiculous amount of money to you might not be ridiculous to someone else OR they can justify it differently because they’re more passionate about it than you are. Who knows. It’s none of our business. I don’t care if someone buys an RV to drive to work. If they want to then that’s fine. I don’t care if you eat skittles for breakfast or drive a pink lunar rover to work. They might not be good or practical or rational things to me but it’s your money so do what you want with it. Is it better that the state dictates what you can drive and where you live? Here’s your Fiat 124 rebadged Lada and your 1 bedroom box of a flat that everyone else in the country is eligible for. Hmmm, I wonder where we’ve seen that before.

Justin T. Westbrook > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 16:42

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Thanks!

Beach Bum > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 16:47

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No way in h***.

I use my truck (06 2500HD bought new) for serious stuff. That is not only ugly, it’s got that little excuse for bed. Won’t hold diddly squat, and that IS why I own a truck. I need to haul stuff.

anacanapana > McTurtle 07/07/2016 at 16:52

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When you only justification for something is that you “want” it - that was your word, not mine - you’re a child.

Yep, because the only alternatives are 1. Spending your money on tacky status symbols that you’ll never really use or 2. Marxist-Leninism.

Of course, since I think massive trucks that never see any bigger load that a grocery run are tacky and pointless, I’m clearly a Communist who thinks no one should be allowed to have them.

It gets worse - I think sports cars with automatic transmissions are also stupid. By your leap in logic, I’m pretty much the love child of Stalin and Kim Il Sung at this point.

But yeah, you have the right to buy whatever vehicle is for sale. Just like I have the right to say you're a massive douchebag for driving it.

LJ909 > Justin T. Westbrook 07/07/2016 at 16:53

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Got it.

LJ909 > Beach Bum 07/07/2016 at 16:59

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Exactly. It's a good truck. But at this price point it doesn't make sense to what amounts to basically a mid sized car in terms of room and utility.

Obviouslyclearlyhidden > LJ909 07/07/2016 at 17:30

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Truck prices like this have soared, because of the demographic who has bought them and made them popular. Bros. Prices have sky rocketed for trucks. When I was a kid my dad worked construction, and used/NEEDED a truck for work. Now, legitimate workers can barely afford trucks, work boots, etc because of the price which has been inflated due to the bros who buy them. I have a “friend” of the family who bought a tundra extended cab in BEIGE, so he can “go off-roadin in this beast!” Face palm.

Cheramie > Hi there 07/07/2016 at 19:37

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Not sure why her being a lesbian is in any way relevant.

Hi there > Cheramie 07/07/2016 at 20:00

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Eh, if you met her and her partner you would not guess that they are ~ranchers. They speak almost perfectly, good fashion sense, very polite. I was 13 when I first witnessed their ranch, was strange seeing older ladies doing such things.

RancidLunchmeat > LJ909 07/08/2016 at 10:43

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And you are typically in the habit about calling dealers and inquiring what the sales price is on a brand new, fully loaded truck and having them tell you they’ll give it to you $10k off MSRP?

Fishing expeditions get what they deserve, which is no answer, which is what you got. That truck will not sell for MSRP.

LJ909 > RancidLunchmeat 07/08/2016 at 11:18

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I am. Especially when I know theres bullshit involved. I know this from experience. This truck will eventually sell for MSRP or below after its sat on the lot for months.

Burnie McHothot > xx45xx 07/08/2016 at 13:19

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Point taken.

TylerJ > LJ909 01/25/2017 at 20:24

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Were you in trouble?

LJ909 > TylerJ 01/25/2017 at 20:30

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Kinda late with this lol but nope.

TylerJ > LJ909 01/25/2017 at 20:42

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It all started with this rabbit hole I went down that started with a post on the Fiesta ST that ended here. I saw the comment and was curious.

LJ909 > TylerJ 01/25/2017 at 20:44

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Oh ok. If you’d like you can read all of my stuff from the past year or so.

Justino6969 > Cheramie 01/30/2017 at 08:36

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Because Subaru.